Hi all,
Jeremy clarifies about the support of lab mentor travel. We cannot do it
via this conference program. So, yes, we will need to figure out
alternate ways of supporting their travel. Including support from the
labs themselves.
Best,
Tulika
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: DOE Conference Support Guidelines
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:58:03 +0000
From: Love, Jeremy <Jeremy.Love(a)science.doe.gov>
To: Tulika Bose <tulika(a)hep.wisc.edu>
Hi Tulika,
The general guidance is for technical workshops and conferences and
may not be strictly relevant for this traineeship event. Better
examples could be the US Particle Accelerator School (USPAS) and
Excellence in Detectors and Instrumentation Technologies (EDIT), but
those are organized and run by labs. I will need to look into how those
programs are supported. Arranging something for the future that mimics
one of them may be worth considering, but they are quite formal.
I believe in general support for lab staff to travel is not provided.
If the proposal is submitted by a university, it must follow the
standard grant review and award process which does take months.
Best,
-Jeremy
*From:*Tulika Bose <tulika(a)hep.wisc.edu>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:24 AM
*To:* Love, Jeremy <Jeremy.Love(a)science.doe.gov>
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: DOE Conference Support Guidelines
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks again for this. As you know, we are interested in figuring out
travel funding of lab personnel (mentors of our TAC-HEP students) for
attending our summer program (1-week session where all students get
together in one place). I had hoped that we could use the conference
proposal to make a case. However, when I look at the guidelines at the
link below, I see:
* Travel support should be limited to students who have no other
source of funding.
Can we still make the case for supporting travel of lab personnel ?
Also, the guidelines suggesting doing this 6 month prior to the
conference/workshop. We are planning ours towards the end of July, is it
too late for that ? Or should we try anyway ?
Thanks and best regards,
Tulika
On 4/24/23 4:37 PM, Love, Jeremy wrote:
Hi Tulika,
As we discussed here are the guidelines for requests for
conference support:
https://science.osti.gov/hep/Funding-Opportunities/Review-Policy-Proposal-G…
<https://science.osti.gov/hep/Funding-Opportunities/Review-Policy-Proposal-G…> (see
“Conference proposal guidelines” on this page).
The labs or grantees should avoid requesting any overheads for such
conference-related support.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, we requested that any proposal include
information on how the conference organizers will take safety
measures during COVID as well as options for remote participation.
In addition, SC recently rolled out new guidelines for conference
proposals:
https://science.osti.gov/grants/Applicant-and-Awardee-Resources/Conference-…
<https://science.osti.gov/grants/Applicant-and-Awardee-Resources/Conference-…>.
In particular, a code of conduct statement is needed in any proposal
as well as a recruitment and accessibility plan.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best,
-Jeremy
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US Department of Energy
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Subject: DOE Conference Support Guidelines
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:37:02 +0000
From: Love, Jeremy <Jeremy.Love(a)science.doe.gov>
To: Tulika Bose <tulika(a)hep.wisc.edu>
Hi Tulika,
As we discussed here are the guidelines for requests for conference
support:
https://science.osti.gov/hep/Funding-Opportunities/Review-Policy-Proposal-G… (see
“Conference proposal guidelines” on this page).
The labs or grantees should avoid requesting any overheads for such
conference-related support.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, we requested that any proposal include
information on how the conference organizers will take safety measures
during COVID as well as options for remote participation.
In addition, SC recently rolled out new guidelines for conference
proposals:
https://science.osti.gov/grants/Applicant-and-Awardee-Resources/Conference-….
In particular, a code of conduct statement is needed in any proposal as
well as a recruitment and accessibility plan.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best,
-Jeremy
--
Jeremy Love, PhD (He/Him)
Computational HEP & AI/ML
Program Manager
Research & Technology Division
Office of High Energy Physics
US Department of Energy
mailto:Jeremy.Love@science.doe.gov <mailto:Jeremy.Love@science.doe.gov>
Dear all,
Jeremy Love reached out to me for a meeting to talk about TAC-HEP. He
mentioned that he really liked our detailed progress report and very
much appreciated our efforts to recruit students midway through the
academic year. That said, he informed me that due to a mis-understanding
at his end, he would get less money than he expected for Year 2. And
hence he would give us 1 student less worth of funds i.e. reduce our
overall budget by ~55K for Year 2. Given the balance that we have (and
he noted one student less at Princeton), he was hoping that we would
manage. If not, then he would try to figure something out.
Given our current situation, I could not disagree i.e. we can manage in
Year 2 given our leftover funds. I did tell him that we were actively
recruiting and hence would request the originally allocated funds in
Year 3. He agreed.
I then brought up a few other things:
1) Travel: we have limited funds for travel, especially for
non-students. He mentioned that we could apply for conference support
($5-10K level) if needed and he would support it. He then sent me
information about it that I will forward next.
2) He encouraged our students to apply for the SCGSR program and
mentioned that it could be used to stretch out support for the student
e.g. 1 year of TAC-HEP, 1 year of SCGSR and 1 year of TAC-HEP.
Specifically, the student does not need to be part of TAC-HEP for two
consecutive years. In particular, it appears that there is an
eligibility condition associated with SCGSR
(https://science.osti.gov/wdts/scgsr/Eligibility) that we should pay
attention to: if a student has worked at a DOE lab (i.e. based there)
for more than 3 months, they are not eligible for SCGSR!
3) I brought up my concern with the requirement of US citizenship/LPR
status for our traineeship program. He appreciates this and in fact
mentioned that the accelerator traineeship program had also raised this
issue. He said that he would follow up regarding it (but I wouldn't hold
my breath for any changes). He did mention that many of these rules were
set up during the previous administration and until somebody changes
them, they stay in effect. I told him that the RENEW program (also DOE)
does not have this requirement. He was pleasantly surprised - this is
likely the case cause it's a new initiative.
4) He again emphasized that he was really happy with what we have
achieved so far and was also happy to hear that we were talking with the
other traineeship programs.
5) Jeremy said that he would at some point also follow up with the lab
people to hear about their experience.
Given (5), I think it's important that we work on our lab connections
and perhaps try and get as many of them as possible to our summer program.
Best,
Tulika